Basically told Bella and Jeff off.
Read this if you want...it's just the post vote out conversation.
This completely irritates me because it's the same story every time.
People jump at something that I said or do (sometimes I don't even notice) and instead of confronting me about it, they just plan to take me out!
It's dumb.
And Miki screwed that challenge for us, yet she stays even though she's the reason we went to Tribal.
She could have asked me when we could be on at the same time to do it, or just tell me when she'd be on and ask if I could come.
That was a DICK move I would never do that to someone.
The stupidest thing is she started the challenge....then she left in the middle of it...are you kidding me? -_-
Whatever.
Judd Sergeant (7:28:02 PM): I knew Jeff was right haha
Michael Skupin (7:28:10 PM): Jeff was right?
Judd Sergeant (7:28:18 PM): I understannd that you didn't...when I asked you to and you said you hadn't voted yet...
Judd Sergeant (7:28:29 PM): When in the thread you said people need to read...
Judd Sergeant (7:28:35 PM): Can't really cover that up haha
Michael Skupin (7:28:41 PM): oh I dump on myself like that all the time
Michael Skupin (7:28:50 PM): I know I don't read things thoroughly
Michael Skupin (7:29:11 PM): but how was Jeff right?
Judd Sergeant (7:29:22 PM): He just was.
Judd Sergeant (7:29:29 PM): About you.
Michael Skupin (7:29:41 PM): interesting
Judd Sergeant (7:29:48 PM): So you never planned to vote for me?
Judd Sergeant (7:29:51 PM): *with
Michael Skupin (7:30:00 PM): no I was never voting with you
Judd Sergeant (7:30:05 PM): Why not?
Michael Skupin (7:30:46 PM): I wouldn't vote Miki out
Judd Sergeant (7:30:52 PM): I know that
Michael Skupin (7:30:52 PM): I like Candice
Michael Skupin (7:30:59 PM): it's not that I don't like you
Michael Skupin (7:31:06 PM): it's been your actions within this game
Judd Sergeant (7:31:12 PM): I have done stuff to you?
Michael Skupin (7:31:26 PM): no but you did jump off on Alex
Judd Sergeant (7:31:37 PM): Of course I did.
Michael Skupin (7:31:41 PM): something about he would drop you for me or something to that effect
Michael Skupin (7:31:50 PM): because of Andy's AS game
Judd Sergeant (7:31:54 PM): So why does that involve you?
Michael Skupin (7:32:00 PM): in which I didn't even know he was in Andy's AS game
Judd Sergeant (7:32:02 PM): You explained it to me...he explained it to me.
Judd Sergeant (7:32:17 PM): I told you who he was...?
Michael Skupin (7:32:17 PM): I explained what?
Judd Sergeant (7:32:25 PM): You explained your relationship to him or whatever.
Judd Sergeant (7:32:38 PM): But I don't see why what I said to Alex concerns you.
Michael Skupin (7:32:41 PM): until the day he told me about you jumping off on him
Michael Skupin (7:32:47 PM): I did not know he was in Andy's AS
Judd Sergeant (7:32:48 PM): Because that was between me and Alex and what I expected from HIM, not you.
Michael Skupin (7:32:57 PM): in fact my relationship with him has been
Michael Skupin (7:33:10 PM): I blindsided his ass right out of Vs
Judd Sergeant (7:33:16 PM): I know....you told me.
Judd Sergeant (7:33:31 PM): So I can't ask him something about my deal with him? haha
Judd Sergeant (7:33:38 PM): I don't see how that's so wrong if it doesn't concern you.
Michael Skupin (7:33:45 PM): but why did my name have to come up in it?
Judd Sergeant (7:34:22 PM): Because I realized at that point that you 2 knew each other before this game from Andy's AS...now I know you didn't know, but that worried me...so I asked him about it?
Michael Skupin (7:34:40 PM): but I didn't know he was in Andy's game
Michael Skupin (7:34:46 PM): hell I didn't even know he was in my game
Judd Sergeant (7:35:00 PM): I know...and I realized that after I asked him.
Judd Sergeant (7:35:08 PM): I thought you guys knew and that's why I was concerned.
Judd Sergeant (7:35:20 PM): When I realized you guys had little to no interaction there it didn't worry me.
Judd Sergeant (7:35:26 PM): So I don't see what the problem is.
Michael Skupin (7:35:42 PM): but ya jumped off before you knew the entire situation
Judd Sergeant (7:35:51 PM): You didn't explain anything else to me.
Judd Sergeant (7:35:58 PM): So I had nothing to go off of.
Judd Sergeant (7:36:02 PM): Which is why I went to him haha
Judd Sergeant (7:36:06 PM): I'm not sure what I'm not making clear.
Michael Skupin (7:36:13 PM): but it's the way you go to people
Michael Skupin (7:36:16 PM): you're very jumpy
Judd Sergeant (7:36:23 PM): No, I went at HIM like that.
Michael Skupin (7:36:49 PM): and didn't I ask you not to reveal who I was?
Judd Sergeant (7:36:58 PM): I didn't reveal who you were.
Michael Skupin (7:37:02 PM): yet the next day you went to Jeff
Michael Skupin (7:37:11 PM): now yes he knew who I was
Judd Sergeant (7:37:25 PM): You said Jeff knew who you were.
Michael Skupin (7:37:36 PM): and Jeff didn't want people to know who he was
Michael Skupin (7:37:42 PM): I know I told you that too
Judd Sergeant (7:37:45 PM): I never told anyone who Jeff was.
Michael Skupin (7:37:53 PM): you went to him
Judd Sergeant (7:38:04 PM): Yes....because I knew Jeff haha
Judd Sergeant (7:38:11 PM): It's not like we weren't friends.
Michael Skupin (7:38:42 PM): but if Jeff wanted you to know
Michael Skupin (7:38:45 PM): he would've told you himself
Judd Sergeant (7:38:57 PM): He said he was going to tell me...
Judd Sergeant (7:39:19 PM): If Jeff and I are friends you can't just expect me to not talk to him at all.
Judd Sergeant (7:39:35 PM): It's not like I can then go the rest of the game hiding that when knowing who he is benefits me.
Michael Skupin (7:41:05 PM): actually you can
Michael Skupin (7:41:12 PM): sometimes it's what you have to do
Judd Sergeant (7:41:15 PM): But I'm not going to.
Judd Sergeant (7:41:37 PM): That only means it benefits you and my relationship to him would have been through you.
Judd Sergeant (7:41:42 PM): I'd rather take it into my own hands.
Judd Sergeant (7:41:51 PM): You didn't even tell me it was him.
Judd Sergeant (7:41:56 PM): You told me he was in the game.
Michael Skupin (7:42:03 PM): you just put 2 and 2 together
Judd Sergeant (7:42:03 PM): So if I jumped on a hunch, then that's me, not you.
Judd Sergeant (7:42:06 PM): Yes.
Judd Sergeant (7:42:09 PM): You didn't tell me.
Michael Skupin (7:42:16 PM): in which I shouldn't have said what I said
Judd Sergeant (7:42:31 PM): Well you did...and sorry then I jumped on a hunch that very well could have been wrong.
Judd Sergeant (7:42:36 PM): It's not my fault I was right haha
Judd Sergeant (7:42:39 PM): That's ridiculous.
Michael Skupin (7:42:59 PM): there wasn't many people left for you to chose from
Judd Sergeant (7:43:07 PM): You didn't say he was on the tribe.
Judd Sergeant (7:43:10 PM): You said he was in the game.
Judd Sergeant (7:43:19 PM): There were...um like 14 people to choose from.
Michael Skupin (7:43:20 PM): right but it still didn't leave many to chose from
Judd Sergeant (7:43:27 PM): And it's his own damn fault for messaging me so much!
Judd Sergeant (7:43:34 PM): Yes, and that's his fault.
Judd Sergeant (7:43:41 PM): If he didn't message me so much I NEVER would have guessed.
Judd Sergeant (7:44:02 PM): And he even tells me he has no intentions on working with you but you still trust him when I even gave you my word.
Judd Sergeant (7:44:04 PM): It's pathetic.
Judd Sergeant (7:44:16 PM): That over something so stupid I get voted out.
Michael Skupin (7:44:22 PM): he and I know where we stand with one another
Judd Sergeant (7:44:25 PM): It's why ORG's get so damn annoying.
Michael Skupin (7:44:27 PM): with you it's always a question
Judd Sergeant (7:44:32 PM): Um no...
Judd Sergeant (7:44:36 PM): You guys just question me.
Judd Sergeant (7:44:41 PM): Don't let me prove myself.
Judd Sergeant (7:44:48 PM): You just jump on voting me out.
Judd Sergeant (7:44:52 PM): You know that he came to me?
Judd Sergeant (7:44:57 PM): And offered me a deal that didn't involve you?
Judd Sergeant (7:45:07 PM): Shows that loyalty doesn't it.
Judd Sergeant (7:45:23 PM): When I gave you no reason to doubt me except....oh yeah, Again 3
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Michael Skupin (7:45:26 PM): and what if I said I already knew that
Judd Sergeant (7:45:32 PM): Then I'd believe you.
Michael Skupin (7:45:33 PM): like I said
Michael Skupin (7:45:43 PM): he and I have an agreement between us this game
Judd Sergeant (7:45:51 PM): Right. HE told me all about it.
Michael Skupin (7:45:57 PM): us working completely together is a round by round thing
Judd Sergeant (7:45:57 PM): I don't need to hear it again.
Judd Sergeant (7:46:03 PM): He told me who all your little friends are.
Judd Sergeant (7:46:19 PM): I knew how that vote was going down at the last tribal swap...he told me.
Michael Skupin (7:47:03 PM): he and I weren't on the same tribe until now
Judd Sergeant (7:47:42 PM): I know this.
Judd Sergeant (7:47:50 PM): He told me you were close to Miki and Elyse.
Judd Sergeant (7:47:58 PM): And told me all the people you have around your finger or whatever.
Judd Sergeant (7:48:18 PM): And then it's obvious when Miki so willingly votes with you then comes up with some BS excuse about it.
Judd Sergeant (7:48:26 PM): Jeff is spilling everything!
Judd Sergeant (7:48:36 PM): He has loose lips too ya know...it's not like he's kept anything down.
Michael Skupin (7:50:13 PM): mhmmmmmmm
Judd Sergeant (7:50:34 PM): Oh but of course I spill one little thing and then I become target enemy #1...
Judd Sergeant (7:50:36 PM): Such bull shit.
Michael Skupin (7:53:53 PM): so if you knew all of this
Michael Skupin (7:53:59 PM): why would you not say something sooner?
Judd Sergeant (7:54:56 PM): 1. Because I trusted your word...you know, I actually give someone the decensy of asking about what I've heard first before just voting them out. Because it happens to me so often and it's not even true and then I get shit on like this and then they realize they made a wrong choice.
Judd Sergeant (7:55:08 PM): I'm actually loyal...you act like I'm some dishonest backstabbing prick.
Judd Sergeant (7:55:11 PM): YOU DON'T KNOW ME.
Michael Skupin (7:55:34 PM): you don't need to yell at me
Judd Sergeant (7:55:37 PM): 2. Jeff was supposed to help me and also I don't throw people under the bus....so why would I turn it on someone who I am aligned with?
Michael Skupin (7:55:54 PM): but yet here you are throwing him under the bus now
Judd Sergeant (7:55:58 PM): If I would have known I was in trouble I would have said something...
Judd Sergeant (7:56:03 PM): Yes because he's a little fucker!
Judd Sergeant (7:56:06 PM): And I'm out of the game.
Judd Sergeant (7:56:17 PM): And he's obviously not my ally so why would I care at this point?
Judd Sergeant (7:56:43 PM): I never would ahve done this to him otherwise.
Judd Sergeant (7:58:20 PM): But you say you knew all this anyways, so why does it matter to you?
Michael Skupin (7:58:58 PM): I was just wondering
why now even if you considered him an ally
Judd Sergeant (7:59:13 PM): Because he just screwed me hard.
Judd Sergeant (7:59:18 PM): Just like he planned to do in Turkey.
Judd Sergeant (7:59:30 PM): And now I'm realizing how good his word actually is worth.
Judd Sergeant (7:59:36 PM): Which isn't much at all...
Judd Sergeant (7:59:42 PM): And I want that asshole screwed.
Judd Sergeant (7:59:49 PM): And I'll do whatever I can to make sure it happens.
Judd Sergeant (8:00:06 PM): Just like in Turkey.
Michael Skupin (8:01:35 PM): so b/c you're sore that you got voted out
Michael Skupin (8:01:42 PM): you're gonna affect the game of someone else?
Judd Sergeant (8:01:55 PM): No, I'm sore at what he's done to me twice now.
Judd Sergeant (8:01:58 PM): So it's a personal matter.
Judd Sergeant (8:02:14 PM): I'm not gonna go to every person and make up something.
Judd Sergeant (8:02:20 PM): I'm talking to you because I'm hurt by you and him.
Judd Sergeant (8:02:23 PM): I think it's wrong.
Judd Sergeant (8:02:25 PM): Completely.
Michael Skupin (8:03:30 PM): but you trusted him
Michael Skupin (8:03:33 PM): there's a saying
Michael Skupin (8:03:37 PM): fool me once, shame on you
Michael Skupin (8:03:42 PM): fool me twice, shame on me
Judd Sergeant (8:03:51 PM): I had no choice....
Judd Sergeant (8:03:57 PM): Since you obviously never planned to help me.
Michael Skupin (8:04:09 PM): I was until you got jumpy with folks
Judd Sergeant (8:04:18 PM): You completely do not understand who I am....and that's my fault I suppose but there's nothing more I could have done for you to help my case.
Michael Skupin (8:04:37 PM): actually I may understand more than you think I do
Judd Sergeant (8:04:43 PM): Apparently not.
Michael Skupin (8:04:44 PM): you wear your heart on your sleeve
Michael Skupin (8:04:56 PM): you get offended when you give someone your word and they go back on it
Michael Skupin (8:04:58 PM): and it hurts
Michael Skupin (8:05:05 PM): am I right so far?
Judd Sergeant (8:05:06 PM): Thanks for clearing the obvious.
Judd Sergeant (8:05:14 PM): I'm overly sensitive.
Judd Sergeant (8:05:16 PM): Overly trusting.
Michael Skupin (8:05:19 PM): trust me I get that
Judd Sergeant (8:05:22 PM): Wear my heart on my sleeve.
Michael Skupin (8:05:24 PM): I used to be that way
Judd Sergeant (8:05:30 PM): And I expect people to keep their words when they give them to me.
Michael Skupin (8:05:30 PM): and I've learned the hard way
Michael Skupin (8:05:34 PM): these are just games
Michael Skupin (8:05:46 PM): I can't wear my heart on my sleeve playing in an ORG
Judd Sergeant (8:05:53 PM): I'd rather stay the same way then target someone who used to be an ally for something so silly.
Michael Skupin (8:06:16 PM): I've learned the hard way
Judd Sergeant (8:06:22 PM): It's seriously ridiculous how some people will turn just at the slightest thing.
Michael Skupin (8:06:23 PM): once that trust is broken with me
Michael Skupin (8:06:26 PM): it's hard to earn back
Judd Sergeant (8:06:41 PM): I don't understand why you bothered to tell me who you were in the first place.
Judd Sergeant (8:06:50 PM): Since that obviously made me closer to you.
Judd Sergeant (8:06:57 PM): You did it intentionally so I wouldn't try to come after you.
Judd Sergeant (8:07:01 PM): Then you slit my throat.
Judd Sergeant (8:07:06 PM): Sounds really wrong to me.
Michael Skupin (8:07:18 PM): no I keep my friends very seperate from my ORG alliances
Michael Skupin (8:07:27 PM): I've learned the hard way to do that
Judd Sergeant (8:07:29 PM): That's not gameplay, that's just a bitchy way to vote someone out.
Michael Skupin (8:07:31 PM): it's not easy
Judd Sergeant (8:07:47 PM): I don't need a lecture.
Michael Skupin (8:07:56 PM): I'm not lecturing
Judd Sergeant (8:07:58 PM): I don't need sympathy.
Judd Sergeant (8:08:02 PM): Or anything.
Michael Skupin (8:08:17 PM): then why talk to me ?
Michael Skupin (8:08:22 PM): what do you want?
Michael Skupin (8:08:28 PM): oh wait you said you don't want anything
Judd Sergeant (8:08:53 PM): I don't want to be told how I should not be emotionally invested it's my personality.
Judd Sergeant (8:09:07 PM): If it gets me this hurt when people I think are friends do that to me, then so be it.
Judd Sergeant (8:09:15 PM): Because they aren't friends if they're going to do it in the first place.
Michael Skupin (8:10:07 PM): then you will continue to be hurt
Judd Sergeant (8:10:20 PM): Only if my "friends" betray me.
Judd Sergeant (8:10:24 PM): Which I should be hurt.
Michael Skupin (8:14:55 PM): mhmmmm
Judd Sergeant (8:15:04 PM): Ok.
Michael Skupin (8:20:21 PM): and for the record
Michael Skupin (8:20:36 PM): Jeff did try to get the vote off of you
Judd Sergeant (8:20:54 PM): Ok.
Judd Sergeant (8:21:06 PM): It just pisses me off that the reason we were even at tribal was because of Miki.
Judd Sergeant (8:21:09 PM): And I still go.
Judd Sergeant (8:21:17 PM): Because I told Jeff I figured him out?
Judd Sergeant (8:21:23 PM): This whole game was a BLAST!
Michael Skupin (8:21:33 PM): but it wasn't only Miki's fault
Judd Sergeant (8:21:37 PM): Pretty much.
Michael Skupin (8:21:41 PM): it was the both of y'alls
Judd Sergeant (8:21:45 PM): Not really.
Judd Sergeant (8:21:52 PM): I didn't start the challenge then leave in the middle of it.
Judd Sergeant (8:21:59 PM): Oh wait...that IS my fault, huh?
Judd Sergeant (8:22:01 PM):
Judd Sergeant (8:22:11 PM): I found that 3rd flag in 5 minutes.
Michael Skupin (8:22:17 PM): neither one of you were around with the other
Judd Sergeant (8:22:32 PM): And yet I didn't start the challenge without her did I?
Judd Sergeant (8:22:43 PM): It was a stupid move on her part and I don't even believe that you're defending that!
Judd Sergeant (8:22:55 PM): She never said I want to start the challenge tonight when will you be on.
Judd Sergeant (8:23:06 PM): Or say she wanted to start it a certain time and asked me to be there.
Judd Sergeant (8:23:08 PM): She just did it.
Judd Sergeant (8:23:17 PM): AND THEN LEFT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT!
Judd Sergeant (8:23:28 PM): What idiot starts the challenge when they know they'll leave while it's going on.
Judd Sergeant (8:23:31 PM): smh
Judd Sergeant (8:23:34 PM): It's ridiculous.
Michael Skupin (8:24:01 PM): and what was she s'posed to do?
Michael Skupin (8:24:07 PM): wait another 24 hours for you to show?
Judd Sergeant (8:24:09 PM): Like I said.
Michael Skupin (8:24:11 PM): when she had to work
Judd Sergeant (8:24:22 PM): " She never said I want to start the challenge tonight when will you be on.
Or say she wanted to start it a certain time and asked me to be there."
Judd Sergeant (8:24:26 PM): Either of those would have worked.
Judd Sergeant (8:24:44 PM): I've been around. I've been online she could have said any time.
Judd Sergeant (8:24:56 PM): But of course when you start the challenge you can just blame the other person for not being there.
Judd Sergeant (8:24:59 PM): But she never asked.
Judd Sergeant (8:25:06 PM): So that's a huge dick move.
Judd Sergeant (8:25:10 PM): On her part.
Judd Sergeant (8:25:15 PM): I would NEVER do that to anyone.
Michael Skupin (8:25:48 PM): I can't take this any more
Judd Sergeant (8:26:11 PM): Neither can I. Or anytime people just jump to conclusions and vote me out without ever talking to me first about it.
Judd Sergeant (8:26:20 PM): I'm easy to work with...very managable.
Judd Sergeant (8:26:25 PM): But you have to communicate.
Judd Sergeant (8:26:51 PM): You've completely painted me wrong...but you say you know me well, you've shown it...yet you didn't take it into account anyways which makes it worse.
SkupinsSausage signed off at 8:26:56 PM
Judd Sergeant (8:26:58 PM): Bye!
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