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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 2, 2012 2:29:11 GMT -5
I have to admit, this challenge is harder this season than it actually looks. Alex, Elyse, and I are the ones in charge but no one else realizes that but us. It's always harder to try to figure out how someone else will put the answers. It does not help that we can't talk to anyone about our answers. Yes, I love tormenting my cast with shit like this but I really can't stand doing them myself lol. I really suck at this challenge and since I'm in my fucking danger zone. Hopefully, I win immunity and make it to F6 very easily. But probably not and then I get to hope and pray my alliance is strong enough to keep me around.
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 2, 2012 18:54:59 GMT -5
My convo with Miki:
Miki Wingle - 4:44 pm
Hey Skupin
Michael Skupin 5:07 pm
hey Miki
Miki Wingle - 5:08 pm
How are you?
Michael Skupin 5:09 pm
oh not bad
how bout you?
Miki Wingle - 5:13 pm
Not bad at all
Michael Skupin 5:13 pm
Awesome
Done this stupid challenge yet?
Miki Wingle - 5:30 pm
Nope I'm on vacation so I won't be doing it till 7-8 I am out to dinner
Michael Skupin 5:30 pm
I don't blame you at all
Miki Wingle - 5:31 pm
Yeah
Michael Skupin 5:33 pm
I <3'd my vacation
Miki Wingle - 5:35 pm
Mines been ok
I'm never going with family again
Michael Skupin 5:36 pm
I'm not fond of mine either
Miki Wingle - 5:48 pm
Lol my siblings are pains man
Michael Skupin 5:49 pm
I truly understand that
Miki Wingle - 5:49 pm
Love them but not this long of a period
Michael Skupin 5:50 pm
I understand
Miki Wingle - 5:50 pm
So what's the word for this round?
Michael Skupin 5:51 pm
Depending on who wins immunity
Miki Wingle - 5:51 pm
Ah cool cool
Michael Skupin 5:51 pm
I wanted to talk to you about voting John out
Miki Wingle - 5:51 pm
I'm fine with whatever
If I can make it to five is be happy like I said before
Miki Wingle - 5:52 pm
I would like to propose a deal with you if your willing
Michael Skupin 5:53 pm
I'm listening
Miki Wingle - 5:54 pm
You take me to 5 I'll gladly give you my vote at FTC and I'll work on ibrehem ad Candice
I don't expect to make it further the 5 which is why that's all I'm asking
Miki Wingle - 5:55 pm
What you think?
Michael Skupin 5:55 pm
I think that is definately doable
Miki Wingle - 5:57 pm
Really? I'd appreciate it
Michael Skupin 6:10 pm
Yes really that's for sure
Miki Wingle - 6:12 pm
Sweet 
Michael Skupin 6:13 pm
you're welcome
I really do like you
Miki Wingle - 6:14 pm
I like you too I'd like to help you out and help myself a little as well
Michael Skupin 6:22 pm
I can totally understand that
Miki Wingle - 6:23 pm
Yeah how I look at it is if I can't win I want it to be someone I like
Michael Skupin 6:23 pm
I agree totally
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Post by Host Lex on Jan 2, 2012 19:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by Host Lex on Jan 2, 2012 19:12:33 GMT -5
Skupin - The Grouch
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Post by Boston Rob on Jan 2, 2012 19:52:48 GMT -5
Skupin - The Human Torch (thats totes mean I am sorry)
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 2, 2012 20:25:01 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I'm actually not grouchy, just no sleep (: |
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 3, 2012 3:31:37 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 3, 2012 3:46:46 GMT -5
 Comments for this tomorrow. I need sleep |
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 3, 2012 20:27:27 GMT -5
She does make some good points. But my loyalties are with Elyse and have been from the moment she and I were put on the same with Alex. I'm sticking to my allies. If it's my downfall, so be it.
Michael Skupin (7:36:51 PM): Just because I put someone somewhere does not mean that's the pecking order
Candice Woodcock - (7:37:22 PM): well I mean you're obviously voting for me, are you not?
Michael Skupin (7:38:13 PM): Unfortunately yes I am
Candice Woodcock - (7:38:20 PM): Do I get a reasoning?
Michael Skupin (7:38:38 PM): I know what you can do
Michael Skupin (7:38:49 PM): You have a way with people that I respect highly
Michael Skupin (7:38:59 PM): You do everything within your power to stay in a game
Michael Skupin (7:39:06 PM): And I respect the hell outta that
Candice Woodcock - (7:39:16 PM): but im not a threat right now
Candice Woodcock - (7:39:34 PM): I'm an outcast, in the minority, and you could put yourself in a much better spot by voting with me
Candice Woodcock - (7:39:41 PM): with you we could have a majority
Michael Skupin (7:41:15 PM): Okay
Michael Skupin (7:41:22 PM): So then what would you propose?
Candice Woodcock - (7:41:45 PM): you, me, Alex, and Mikayla take out a much bigger threat
Michael Skupin (7:41:59 PM): Am I correct in assuming you mean Elyse?
Candice Woodcock - (7:42:07 PM): any of the three
Candice Woodcock - (7:42:17 PM): right now they could team up at any moment and take you down
Michael Skupin (7:42:47 PM): Honestly
Michael Skupin (7:42:55 PM): I don't view John as any sort of threat what-so-ever
Candice Woodcock - (7:43:02 PM): nor do I.
Michael Skupin (7:43:31 PM): Elyse or Christa do pose a threat to win this game though
Candice Woodcock - (7:43:39 PM): I agree
Candice Woodcock - (7:43:51 PM): Elyse is playing a very manipulative game and is loved by the jury
Candice Woodcock - (7:43:54 PM): me, on the other hand, isn't
Michael Skupin (7:44:13 PM): I can't say I'm loved by the jury either
Michael Skupin (7:44:17 PM): Judd is still bitter
Michael Skupin (7:44:33 PM): And who knows what he's told those in the Jury House
Candice Woodcock - (7:44:57 PM): i agree, but i think that he'd have immense respect if you take the others
Candice Woodcock - (7:45:15 PM): idk, I would majorly appreciate it and it would give you a much better shot @ winning
Michael Skupin (7:48:04 PM): You have given me a lot to think about
Michael Skupin (7:48:13 PM): Running out of game to play
Candice Woodcock - (7:48:23 PM): Elyse seems like the best bet
Candice Woodcock - (7:48:37 PM): And I know Mikayla and Alex would do it if you do.
Michael Skupin (7:49:33 PM): I know Miki would in a heartbeat
Michael Skupin (7:49:43 PM): She wants to get as far as she can in this game
Candice Woodcock - (7:50:37 PM): And getting out Elyse protectsme which is useful to her game
Candice Woodcock - (7:50:45 PM): And Alex is eager to make a move
Michael Skupin (7:50:57 PM): Getting Elyse out makes a lot of sense
Michael Skupin (7:51:07 PM): She is very loved and really hasn't made a single enemy
Candice Woodcock - (7:51:49 PM): I know, shed probably beat all in the end
Michael Skupin (7:52:09 PM): I completely agree
Candice Woodcock - (7:52:52 PM): So why not get her out now
Michael Skupin (7:54:55 PM): I don't see a good reason as to why not
Candice Woodcock - (7:55:16 PM): So let's do it. Let's turn the game on its head
Candice Woodcock - (7:55:26 PM): It would be amazing
Michael Skupin (7:55:35 PM): It does need some excitement lol
Candice Woodcock - (7:57:10 PM): Alex said hell be back in about and hour and if you could maybe discuss it if ur able it would be great. It will be us 4 to the end
Michael Skupin (7:57:30 PM): Yeah he told me the same thing
Michael Skupin (7:57:35 PM): Headed to eat dinner, etc
Michael Skupin (7:57:58 PM): But I will discuss this with him for sure to see what he says
Candice Woodcock - (7:58:07 PM): Idk r u honestly thinking about it ?
Michael Skupin (7:58:25 PM): Yes I honestly am
Michael Skupin (7:58:32 PM): This game needs to be shaken up
Candice Woodcock - (7:59:43 PM): I really appreciate that. And I really hope you do decide to vote Elyse
Michael Skupin (8:00:09 PM): It really makes the most sense
Michael Skupin (8:00:19 PM): I'm out to win my first real game
Michael Skupin (8:00:28 PM): And I need some big move to do that
Candice Woodcock - (8:00:57 PM): Yeah, you'd get so much respect from the jury.
Michael Skupin (8:01:04 PM): I know it
Candice Woodcock - (8:03:01 PM): We can finally work together. Well make it to the final 4
Michael Skupin (8:03:21 PM): For once it'll be nice to work with you
Candice Woodcock - (8:05:58 PM): Haha thanks...I think...
Michael Skupin (8:06:40 PM): Yes I mean it as a compliment
Candice Woodcock - (8:07:56 PM): Haha then thanks.
Michael Skupin (8:08:08 PM): As much as I enjoy having people that I'm constantly sparring with in games
Michael Skupin (8:08:21 PM): it's nice to work with them as well
Candice Woodcock - (8:08:48 PM): Definitely, we could make a kick ass team
Michael Skupin (8:11:32 PM): I agree
Candice Woodcock - (8:12:00 PM): So when r u making this decisiob
Michael Skupin (8:12:22 PM): By midnight before I turn into a pumpkin and Alex should be back by then
Candice Woodcock - (8:14:22 PM): Ok lol ill be back in like an hr, okay
Michael Skupin (8:14:33 PM): Okay
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 4, 2012 1:35:26 GMT -5
BS post
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 4, 2012 3:01:24 GMT -5
So here's Candice and my story.
I joined this series called Revenge Series. She was a major player in the series and Brett's title of Control Freak - well let's just say Brett would meet his match. I made me some allies and they weren't her favorites. Especially one of the players who was Candace. I"m not sure what their deal was. But I sided with her and my other ally. That did not make her happy.
I can't remember which game, whether it was that one or the AS that followed, that Candace and I were at Exile *I remember it was the AS because dinkii was voted out first and he sent me to Exile* So my ally Mike Idol'd Candice out of the game and somehow that was MY fault. I had nothing to do with that. Mike's a big boy and can make his own decisions. *Side note here, she and I have discussed this and she now realizes that I didn't have anything to do with it*. However, I do take full responsibility for Idol'ing her out of Again: Cook Islands. She was coming after me for ^^^ and I had an Idol. Buh bye ;D
Now this is someone who really doesn't do alias. In all the games I've played with her, she has never. Apparently she does now. We were chatting one day and she mentioned about us making jury and how excited she was. I was like, I agree, I just need to get past my curse. I have this horrible curse that is always overshadowing me and it's called 6th - 8th place  . *Side note #2, still not out of that danger zone yet* She says yeah I have one too, I normally get 8th place. I replied back with, wow I know someone else who has a curse like that. We go back and forth a bit more and I ask her, do you have this thing with being Idol'd out of games by any chance? She replies with yes I do. I said OMG my old friend Moni! *That's the first part of her regular SN* So she says and you are? I told her Ozzy/Yul. *It's a Small World After All* So we caught up a bit. I really did want to work with her this game. But I have my loyalties to Alex and Elyse and I won't turn on either one of them ever. If it comes down to myself or Elyse winning the game and Elyse wins, I will be more than happy. Yes, I want to win, badly! But I will be just as happy to make FTC. I am more than overdue for that one. That's a fact.
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 6, 2012 9:02:18 GMT -5
John - Who would you say are the biggest jury threats remaining in the game? I have to say Candice, Everybody likes her, she is as sweet as Hell, She is a really nice person and very social so I think if she would make it to the end that she would win no matter what!
Seriously? WTF is this kid thinking? Candice is nice outside the game but gamewise she's fucking ruthless and will do anything to save her ass. I don't fault her for that, I would be doing the same thing. But shit son are you that oblivious. Oh wait, you aren't.
PM from John on Christmas Eve:
Subject: Candice and Mikayla are dangerous
So where the fuck did he even come up with that Candice is nice? Yeah she would win, I'm not stupid. But I truly do not like the way this PM sounds:
No Subject:
Whoa! Hold up there buddy! You aren't in control of this shit. Alex, Elyse, and myself are. So calm down because you're getting 5th and don't act like you're getting anything but. |
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 6, 2012 23:01:19 GMT -5
6th - 8th place curse strikes again: 
Candice Woodcock - (10:54:13 PM): Nothing change?
Michael Skupin (10:54:25 PM): As far as I know, no it hasn't
Candice Woodcock - (10:54:36 PM): alright, so keep my john @ vote
Candice Woodcock - (10:54:49 PM): vote as John***
Michael Skupin (10:55:02 PM): That's how I have my vote
Candice Woodcock - (10:55:44 PM): Alright, awesome. I gotta go out for an hour or two, be back later
Candice Woodcock - (10:55:47 PM): bye!
Michael Skupin (10:55:51 PM): Cya
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Post by Michael Skupin on Jan 10, 2012 22:49:35 GMT -5
So a funny thing happened on the way to the forum.
Lemme tell y'all a lil story. As we're playing Risk on Sunday night, Elyse notices and brings to my attention that Christa and Alex weren't attacking each other *obvs this is after Candice was taken out*. They were just attacking us.
~Elyse (1:16:04 AM): you need to attack Alex. I think he and Christa are dealing together
Elyse (1:16:11 AM): cause they have never attacked eachother
Bella B (1:16:14 AM): I did~
And the longer we went, the more they attacked us. So we finally all were tired and wanted to call it a night. We decided to finish up Tuesday which was fine with me. Seeing as I slept through most of yesterday
We get on today and Alex and I were the only ones to show at the start. We didn't about the challenge, in fact, he seems a bit distant from me. But I will explain why.
Elyse and my convo after the challenge:
~SkupinsSausage (9:22:25 PM): yay! you won immunity
Elyse Umemoto - (9:22:40 PM): haha thanks <3
Elyse Umemoto - (9:22:46 PM): Im just glad we kept it form them
SkupinsSausage (9:22:51 PM): Me too
Elyse Umemoto - (9:22:57 PM): Ive tried talkign to Candice and I dunno how into it she is
Elyse Umemoto - (9:23:00 PM): but I will keep talking to her
SkupinsSausage (9:23:11 PM): I talked to her yesterday
SkupinsSausage (9:23:17 PM): She seemed to be good with voting out Christa
Elyse Umemoto - (9:30:11 PM): kk
SkupinsSausage (9:30:30 PM): I'll double check with her when she shows up online
SkupinsSausage (9:30:46 PM): Speaking of............
Elyse Umemoto - (9:30:58 PM): yeah its weird
Elyse Umemoto - (9:31:09 PM): oh wait lol epic coincidence
SkupinsSausage (9:31:18 PM): Yep lol
Elyse Umemoto - (9:38:16 PM): okay so
Elyse Umemoto - (9:38:21 PM): I am talking to Candice
SkupinsSausage (9:38:24 PM): I am too
Elyse Umemoto - (9:38:31 PM): and she thinks Alex is a bit bigger a threat
SkupinsSausage (9:38:36 PM): I know it
SkupinsSausage (9:38:44 PM): She just said why her over Alex
Elyse Umemoto - (9:38:46 PM): so that might be better
SkupinsSausage (9:39:00 PM): Take out Alex?
Elyse Umemoto - (9:39:32 PM): yeah.
Elyse Umemoto - (9:39:35 PM): He is sneaky
Elyse Umemoto - (9:39:48 PM): and if he has a deal with Christa
Elyse Umemoto - (9:39:58 PM): that def means that he wants you or me gone
SkupinsSausage (9:40:23 PM): Which means he could try and grab Candice next round
SkupinsSausage (9:40:26 PM): To tie it up
Elyse Umemoto - (9:40:28 PM): yeah
SkupinsSausage (9:40:32 PM): In the event he wins immunity
SkupinsSausage (9:40:36 PM): He's gonna hate me forever
Elyse Umemoto - (9:40:37 PM): I think he def would
Elyse Umemoto - (9:40:41 PM): well tbh
Elyse Umemoto - (9:40:46 PM): I think he might vote you this round
SkupinsSausage (9:40:53 PM): He can't vote you
Elyse Umemoto - (9:40:58 PM): yeah
Elyse Umemoto - (9:41:19 PM): but Christa asked me to vote you
SkupinsSausage (9:41:23 PM):
SkupinsSausage (9:41:36 PM): Today?
Elyse Umemoto - (9:41:39 PM): yeah
SkupinsSausage (9:42:11 PM): Which means they do have a deal
Elyse Umemoto - (9:42:17 PM): Im pretty sure yeah
Elyse Umemoto - (9:42:28 PM): which is why its important that we do what Candice wants
SkupinsSausage (9:43:01 PM): Otherwise, she may flip to their side
Elyse Umemoto - (9:43:05 PM): yeah
Elyse Umemoto - (9:43:24 PM): So if we get her to vote those two off then really its just about the final challenge
SkupinsSausage (9:43:45 PM): Candice Woodcock - 9:43 pm
Well he straight up told me he wanted to blindside you.
Elyse Umemoto - (9:43:57 PM): oh well see there ya go
Elyse Umemoto - (9:43:58 PM): lmao
SkupinsSausage (9:44:01 PM): He's done
Elyse Umemoto - (9:44:18 PM): I think he and Christa know they cant beat us
Elyse Umemoto - (9:45:18 PM): so theyre trying to "shake things up" or w/e
SkupinsSausage (9:45:31 PM): He hasn't done shit
Elyse Umemoto - (9:45:50 PM): yeah its true
Elyse Umemoto - (9:45:55 PM): so obv he would want to do it now
SkupinsSausage (9:46:01 PM): While he can
SkupinsSausage (9:46:05 PM): But I get him first
SkupinsSausage (9:46:08 PM): Then he's done
Elyse Umemoto - (9:46:13 PM): yep!
SkupinsSausage (9:47:22 PM): I can't believe
SkupinsSausage (9:47:28 PM): After being this loyal to him
SkupinsSausage (9:47:37 PM): He's gonna go and do this
Elyse Umemoto - (9:47:38 PM): yeah that really suprises me too
SkupinsSausage (9:47:54 PM): After he promised that we were cool after Vs
Elyse Umemoto - (9:47:57 PM): but I knew he was really mad about people saying he didnt do stuff
SkupinsSausage (9:48:40 PM): He's won immunity
Elyse Umemoto - (9:59:41 PM): alright I have to go to bed
Elyse Umemoto - (9:59:46 PM): early day tomorrow
SkupinsSausage (9:59:49 PM): ewwwwwwwwwwww
Elyse Umemoto - (9:59:54 PM): so I will vote Alex
Elyse Umemoto - (10:00:01 PM): and Candice says shes voting him too
Elyse Umemoto - (10:00:07 PM): so this will all be good <3
SkupinsSausage (10:00:09 PM): And I will
SkupinsSausage (10:00:12 PM): And he's done <3
Elyse Umemoto - (10:00:15 PM): yep!
Elyse Umemoto - (10:00:21 PM): thats what he gets for betraying lol
SkupinsSausage (10:00:37 PM): Yep!
SkupinsSausage (10:04:04 PM): night <3~
So yeah apparently Alex and Christa are coming after me.
Convo with Candice:
~SkupinsSausage (9:34:51 PM): Hey Candice!
Candice Woodcock - (9:35:31 PM): Hey Skupin
SkupinsSausage (9:35:45 PM): How are you?
Candice Woodcock - (9:36:03 PM): Good, you
SkupinsSausage (9:36:15 PM): Good that Elyse has immunity
Candice Woodcock - (9:38:01 PM): Definitely. You're looking to go for Christa ?
SkupinsSausage (9:38:08 PM): Yes, ma'am
SkupinsSausage (9:38:14 PM): You still good with that?
Candice Woodcock - (9:38:31 PM): Well yeah. But I was,wondering why her over Alex.
SkupinsSausage (9:41:08 PM): Elyse and I are discussing that now
Candice Woodcock - (9:41:46 PM): Well what r u thinking.
SkupinsSausage (9:43:11 PM): That Alex is sneaky
Candice Woodcock - (9:43:29 PM): Well he straight up told me he wanted to blindside you.
SkupinsSausage (9:44:07 PM): Do WTF?
Candice Woodcock - (9:44:48 PM): What
SkupinsSausage (9:44:59 PM): He told you he wants to blindside me?
Candice Woodcock - (9:46:39 PM): Yeah. Blatantly. He said that we need to make u lose this and then said bc he want to blindside you
SkupinsSausage (9:46:58 PM): I am so done being loyal to him
Candice Woodcock - (9:47:58 PM): :\
Candice Woodcock - (9:48:05 PM): He's sneaky
SkupinsSausage (9:48:13 PM): He is so sneaky
Candice Woodcock - (9:49:35 PM): But that's something only we think. The jurors don't believe that at all. Mkayla said he's playing the best social game.
SkupinsSausage (9:50:07 PM): That's funny since I thought Elyse was playing the best social game
SkupinsSausage (9:50:14 PM): Guess that's my opinion
Candice Woodcock - (9:52:43 PM): I'm just surprised me and Elyse are working together on this O.o
SkupinsSausage (9:52:58 PM): She's as shocked as I am with Alex
Candice Woodcock - (9:54:53 PM): Alex is def idolless. Right
SkupinsSausage (9:55:07 PM): He wasn't there at the auction
SkupinsSausage (9:56:24 PM): And Miki had the only Idol that clues were given
SkupinsSausage (9:56:48 PM): jsyk
He thinks I'm voting you out
Candice Woodcock - (9:57:27 PM): Okay that's no problem.
SkupinsSausage (9:58:12 PM): So not gonna see this coming
Candice Woodcock - (9:58:30 PM): Definitely
SkupinsSausage (10:03:55 PM): It really is nice working with you
SkupinsSausage (10:03:59 PM): Instead of against you
Candice Woodcock - (10:04:26 PM): I know, a good change of pace
SkupinsSausage (10:04:38 PM): It is
Candice Woodcock - (10:05:56 PM): Alex deserves it for being so sneaky. Him and Christa seem tightttttttt
SkupinsSausage (10:06:07 PM): They are VERY tight
Candice Woodcock - (10:08:55 PM): Pairs are sooooo dangerous
SkupinsSausage (10:09:03 PM): Yes, they are
SkupinsSausage (10:09:12 PM): And those 2 need split ASAP
Candice Woodcock - (10:09:24 PM): Absolutely
Candice Woodcock - (10:18:04 PM): It's so strange lying about this to Alex
SkupinsSausage (10:18:32 PM): Yeah no kiddingb
IslanderCandice signed off at 10:18:46 PM
Candice Woodcock - (10:19:01 PM): I'm surprisingly guilty about lying.
SkupinsSausage (10:19:08 PM): you
Candice Woodcock - (10:19:49 PM): Oh come on I wasn't that bad in our games...
SkupinsSausage (10:20:01 PM): I never thought you felt bad voting anyone out
Candice Woodcock - (10:21:37 PM): It's just hard to agree to things and not follow through. I had to do this in the Eliza vote and I felt awful.
SkupinsSausage (10:21:55 PM): I know what you mean
SkupinsSausage (10:22:00 PM): I feel horrible about voting him out
SkupinsSausage (10:22:09 PM): But he's coming after me so what can I do?
Candice Woodcock - (10:22:37 PM): Well yeah that's why i'd feel less guilty in your shoes.
SkupinsSausage (10:23:19 PM): I'm about split on it
Candice Woodcock - (10:25:51 PM): But like he can't say anyting about to you since he did the same
SkupinsSausage (10:26:11 PM): Yeah true
Candice Woodcock - (10:35:16 PM): Idk I guess I have to lie. He hasbefore
SkupinsSausage (10:35:32 PM): I know I have to
SkupinsSausage (10:35:35 PM): It's either him or me
SkupinsSausage (10:35:44 PM): Since I am not letting him take me out
Candice Woodcock - (10:35:51 PM): Yeah. But.you're def. fine
Candice Woodcock - (10:35:55 PM): Now.
SkupinsSausage (10:36:26 PM): And you're fine
Candice Woodcock - (10:38:08 PM): It's so nice to make the final 4
SkupinsSausage (10:39:11 PM): I'll be happy to make F4 to start~
I'll be more settled tomorrow night once the votes are read and it's 3 votes Alex, 2 votes me.
Alex tells Candice that he wants to blindside me, instead of him going to Elyse, he has Christa do it. I mean seriously WTF?! Yes, I backstabbed him in Vs but he said he was cool with it. So why now? I mean seriously? And then you're gonna tell Elyse? One of the people I have been closest to this entire game? Dude, so not cool. And now I'm getting you before I get got. So peace <3 Much luv to ya
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Post by Andrea Boehlke on Jan 11, 2012 0:29:46 GMT -5
loooooooooooooooooooool
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